Solved Usuage of Networking Hub and Switch.

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  1. zzang Elite Member

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    - Yeah, I won't just only use broadband routers. I will also use some switches too. And to extend WiFi, I think I will put Access Point.

    - What do you mean segment the networking using sub-nets?

  2. zzang Elite Member

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    This is just for news of updated Home Network Layout.
    The part that are blank, I still haven't decided for it.
    [FONT=&quot]A. Basement (For Family Members and relatives):
    1. Cable TV
    2. Cable Modem (Cable Internet)
    3. Wireless Router (Wireless Broadband Router)
    a. Port 1 goes to “Windows Home Server” for Family.
    b. Port 2 goes to “Main Switch _” for “2nd Floor (For Parents and their “pretty close” friends)”.
    c. Port 3 goes to “Switch _” for “Basement (For Family Members and relatives)”
    d. Port 4 goes to “Main Switch _” for “1st Floor (For Anyone)”
    4. Switch
    a. Port 1 of “Switch 1” goes to “Family PC (HTPC)”.
    b. Port 2 of “Switch 1” goes to “”.
    c. Port 3 of “Switch 1” goes to “Relatives PC”.
    d. Port 4 of “Switch 1” goes to “”.
    e. Port 5 of “Switch 1” goes to “”.

    B. 1st Floor (For Anyone):
    “Main Switch _”
    - Port 1 goes to
    - Port 2 goes to
    - Port 3 goes to
    - Port 4 goes to “WAP _”, Wireless Access Point _
    - Port 5 goes to

    C. 2nd Floor (For Parents and their “pretty close” friends):
    “Main Switch _”
    - Port 1 goes to “Sub Switch _: Dad”
    - Port 2 goes to “Sub Switch _: Mom”
    - Port 3 goes to “NAS”
    - Port 4 goes to “WAP _”, Wireless Access Point _
    - Port 5 goes to “Main Switch _” on “3rd Floor (For chiefs, butlers, maids and etc....)”
    “Sub Switch _: Dad”
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Dad)”
    - Port 2 goes to “Printer (Dad)”
    - Port 3 goes to “NAS”
    - Port 4 goes to “WAP _”, Wireless Access Point _
    - Port 5 goes to “No Where”
    “Sub Switch _: Mom”
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Mom)”
    - Port 2 goes to “Printer (Mom)”
    - Port 3 goes to “NAS”
    - Port 4 goes to “WAP _”, Wireless Access Point _
    - Port 5 goes to “No Where”

    D. 3rd Floor (For chiefs, butlers, maids and etc....):
    “Main Switch _”
    - Port 1 goes to “Sub Switch _: Butler”
    - Port 2 goes to “Sub Switch _: Chief”
    - Port 3 goes to “Sub Switch _: Maid”
    - Port 4 goes to “NAS”
    - Port 5 goes to “WAP _”, Wireless Access Point _
    - Port 6 goes to “Main Switch _” on “4th Floor (For Kids and their "pretty close" friends) 4th Floor (For Kids and their "pretty close" friends)”
    - Port 7 goes to “No Where”
    - Port 8 goes to “No Where”
    “Sub Switch _: Butler”
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Butler)”
    - Port 2 goes to “PC (Butler)”
    - Port 3 goes to “PC (Butler)”
    - Port 4 goes to “PC (Butler)”
    - Port 5 goes to “PC (Butler)”
    “Sub Switch _: Chief"
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Chief)”
    - Port 2 goes to “PC (Chief)”
    - Port 3 goes to “PC (Chief)”
    - Port 4 goes to “PC (Chief)”
    - Port 5 goes to “PC (Chief)”
    “Sub Switch _: Maid”
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Maid)”
    - Port 2 goes to “PC (Maid)”
    - Port 3 goes to “PC (Maid)”
    - Port 4 goes to “PC (Maid)”
    - Port 5 goes to “PC (Maid)”

    E. 4th Floor (For Kids and their "pretty close" friends):
    “Main Switch _”
    - Port 1 goes to “Sub Switch _: Kid 1”
    - Port 2 goes to “Sub Switch _: Kid 2”
    - Port 3 goes to “WAP _”, Wireless Access Point _
    - Port 4 goes to “No Where”.
    - Port 5 goes to “No Where”.
    “Sub Switch _: Kid 1”
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Kid 1)”
    - Port 2 goes to “Printer (Kid 1)”
    - Port 3 goes to “NAS (Kid 1)”
    - Port 4 goes to “PS3 (Kid 1)”.
    - Port 5 goes to “Xbox 360 (Kid 1)”.
    “Sub Switch _: Kid 2”
    - Port 1 goes to “PC (Kid 1)”
    - Port 2 goes to “Printer (Kid 1)”
    - Port 3 goes to “NAS (Kid 1)”
    - Port 4 goes to “PS3 (Kid 1)”.
    - Port 5 goes to “Xbox 360 (Kid 1)”.
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  3. matt1122 Tech Member

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    When you talk about having separate networks, you're actually talking about creating multiple subnetworks (subnets) on the same LAN. This is called segmentation.

    Also of note, there are certainly switches with enough ports to cover each floor on its own. Here's a 24-port Unmanaged Cisco Switch ($270.00) as an example.

    This looks like a fun project! If you're interested in drawing a layout, you can download Visio 2010 Beta for free right now. I find visual layouts to be much easier to work with than a simple outline myself: Microsoft Office Visio 2010 - Free Download. If you're planning on making this into your regular business it's definitely a useful tool. Being able to present something like this to your clients is a big plus.
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  5. zzang Elite Member

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    - Oh, ok.

    - Oh, that one. I have seen those one from store.

    - Oh, ok. I was using Word 2010 Beta to create a chart/drawings. Visio looks way easier then Word in doing it.

    So, what do you think about the changes in home the networking that I wrote before in this thread? Now that I have put updated version of it.
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    Lots of switches. If you can get away with using less (distance wise, depending on the size of the house), I would. Fewer hops = better.

    Also to clarify segmentation more, subnets are just one example of segmentation. Specifically, this is Network Layer (Layer 3) segmentation on the OSI model. A VLAN, on the other hand, is Data Link Layer (Layer 2) segmentation. Segmenting at a lower layer has its advantages. (Not really important, but I'm bored at work and networks are interesting.)
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    Oh, ok.
    Then what should I do to use less switches?
    Cause as you seen my changes that I made, I have to make put it into separate rooms?
    His network on his own office, his wife's network on her own office, both his kids networks on their each rooms, maids' network, butlers' network, chiefs' network on their each office rooms.
    Right?


    Oh, ok.
    Than what should I do?
    Use VLAN?
  8. matt1122 Tech Member

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    Use fewer switches with more ports on them.

    Run Ethernet from the switch to each room (for each jack). Are you not having data jacks installed? I think you would be doing a great disservice to the client by just running Ethernet cords around the house in plain sight, and if he can afford maids and butlers I'm sure professional Ethernet installation fits in the budget. ;)

    I wouldn't recommend it. You're not familiar with the technology and neither is the client probably. It will make things more confusing and harder to figure out. Subnetting is a much simpler method.
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    Oh, ok.


    Then where should I place each switch on each floor?
    What do you mean by, "Are you not having data jacks installed?" that?
    Do you mean by installing cable internet connection on each floor?


    Oh, ok
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    zzang,

    In a "clean" installation, each floor's data equipment would be installed in a closet. From each switch, ethernet cable would be run through the walls, ceilings, or floors - as appropriate - to the various rooms on the floor requiring data connection. The ethernet cable would terminate in the room at an RJ45 data jack in the wall. Consider the wall jack that you plug a telephone extension into - that's an RJ11 telephone jack. This is the same thing but for data - the ethernet cable's clip end (this is the cable from wall jack to computer) is a bit wider than your typical telephone "clip end".

    Hope that helps.
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    Oh, ok.
    So, you mean the RJ45 jack should be installed on each room of whole house on the wall just like the way telephone jack is installed?
  12. matt1122 Tech Member

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    Exactly. As I mentioned before, in the US this typically costs between $100 and $125 per jack, but in some areas it may be more or less expensive. If someone quotes you $200 per jack, I would see if there is good competition in the area. ;)
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    I don't know.
    Cause I don't think he did that, which is why he is asking me to do home network for him.
    He doesn't want to spend on money that he doesn't have to.
    When he pays professional to do it.
    So, what can I do about that?
    Nothing.
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    So, zzang, how do you propose to get wiring from your wiring/data closet out to the rooms that require "hard wired connectivity" without having a professional installation of the data jacks in the walls?
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    Hold on.
    I'm still doing making diagram/chart/drawing of home network that I'm changing a bit.

    *Edited: I managed to make only 5 switches
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Usuage of Networking Hub and Switch.

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