Solved: Pc random restart - Page 5

quasi · 06-07-2009

Looks like everyone has lost interest in this thread.

UPDATE:Anyways, I have upgraded to the latest opera 10 beta. Restarts havent occured since. I will of course have to wait a significant time to say for certain that no restarts occur, but everything seems to be good now.

Now I just need to figure out the freezing at boot and also restarts while playing oblivion.

AW_3_3 · 06-07-2009

Oh I'm sorry quasi I'm still here. It still sounds to me like a re-installation of windows might be in order. It could also be an overheating problem, I cannot remember if we eliminated that or not. @_@

quasi · 06-07-2009

I think we eliminated overheating cause I ran prime95 overnight and no restarts also RTHDRIBL overnight and no restarts. I dont think any unstable silicon can survive that amount of stress testing.
I was hoping that my opera update would have solved the problem, I am currently thinking that its either an unstable browser or maybe tcpip stack errors or something like that.
I realised a few days back that all my restarts occur with opera open, but since I always have a browser open, It was hard to realize.

Unfortunately, even the opera 10 beta still causes the restart. So now I'm using firefox as much as I can to see if that makes a difference (cant completely give up opera).

Originally Posted by AW_3_3

Oh I'm sorry quasi I'm still here. It still sounds to me like a re-installation of windows might be in order. It could also be an overheating problem, I cannot remember if we eliminated that or not. @_@

Any idea if a browser can call an impossible display function?

DCiAdmin · 07-04-2009

Quasi.

I'm so sorry! I didn't realize that your thread had been idle for so long!

Do you still require assistance with your issue? If so, please post back!

Thanks! I look forward to seeing around the forum.

quasi · 07-05-2009

Assistance is still very much required and will be highly appreciated.

I have managed to reduce my restarts by not having many tabs open in my browser.
I believe that either my tcp/ip stack is corrupted or something and it is causing some problem with lots of browsing, or maybe browsers make some kind of impossible display functions call.

My restarts happen with both opera and firefox. I dont use internet explorer. No restarts happen if no browser is open.

DCiAdmin · 07-05-2009

Quasi,

One page back you mentioned browsing with 50 - 100 tabs open. WOW! That's got to be consuming a bunch of RAM!

I was just reading the other day how IE really started to lag with 7+ tabs open. That's the only browser I'm using, so couldn't speak for the 2 that you use. But 50 - 100 tabs has got to be a lot for *any* browser. Have you ever noticed what your memory consumption is when you've got that much open? Task Manager could provide that information to you.

If you consume ALL of the RAM available to Windows, it will reboot. I suspect that is the likely reason behind your issue.

Could you edit your User Profile and add your system specs? That would then place an icon next to your UserName with the info so I don't need to search.

quasi · 07-05-2009

Originally Posted by DCiAdmin

Quasi,

One page back you mentioned browsing with 50 - 100 tabs open. WOW! That's got to be consuming a bunch of RAM!

I was just reading the other day how IE really started to lag with 7+ tabs open. That's the only browser I'm using, so couldn't speak for the 2 that you use. But 50 - 100 tabs has got to be a lot for *any* browser. Have you ever noticed what your memory consumption is when you've got that much open? Task Manager could provide that information to you.

If you consume ALL of the RAM available to Windows, it will reboot. I suspect that is the likely reason behind your issue.

Could you edit your User Profile and add your system specs? That would then place an icon next to your UserName with the info so I don't need to search.

Ya, total system RAM usage goes to like 1GB or slightly above.
the browser individually consume around 300-400Mb.
I have 4gb ram, so I dont think that's the issue.

Updated specs on profile

DCiAdmin · 07-05-2009

Quasi,

Are there any errors before the reboot? Perhaps something showing in the Event Viewer just prior to the reboot? Either Application or System logs?

quasi · 07-06-2009

The following gets logged in event viewer on restart.
Event Type: Error
Event Source: ati2mtag
Event Category: DAL
Event ID: 43038
Description:
EDID contain an error in the RangeLimit field
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z.
0008: 2a 00 00 00 1e a8 00 c0 *....¨.À
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

There is nothing in the event log if it freezes on bootup.

DCiAdmin · 07-06-2009

Do you have Catalyst installed? Perhaps you could unistall the ATI Catalyst and run with just the driver?

I'm finding the same error reported all over the place with no resolutions in sight..... The Catalyst removal was suggested in a couple of the threads I found, but there was no response from the original poster, so I have no idea of the success of this recommendation.

06-07-2009	#41
quasi Bronze Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29 PC Experience: Very Experienced	Re: Pc random restart Looks like everyone has lost interest in this thread. UPDATE:Anyways, I have upgraded to the latest opera 10 beta. Restarts havent occured since. I will of course have to wait a significant time to say for certain that no restarts occur, but everything seems to be good now. Now I just need to figure out the freezing at boot and also restarts while playing oblivion.

06-07-2009	#42
AW_3_3 System Builder Guru Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ballston Spa, New York Posts: 2,490 PC Experience: PC Guru	Re: Pc random restart Oh I'm sorry quasi I'm still here. It still sounds to me like a re-installation of windows might be in order. It could also be an overheating problem, I cannot remember if we eliminated that or not. @_@

06-07-2009	#43
quasi Bronze Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29 PC Experience: Very Experienced	Re: Pc random restart I think we eliminated overheating cause I ran prime95 overnight and no restarts also RTHDRIBL overnight and no restarts. I dont think any unstable silicon can survive that amount of stress testing. I was hoping that my opera update would have solved the problem, I am currently thinking that its either an unstable browser or maybe tcpip stack errors or something like that. I realised a few days back that all my restarts occur with opera open, but since I always have a browser open, It was hard to realize. Unfortunately, even the opera 10 beta still causes the restart. So now I'm using firefox as much as I can to see if that makes a difference (cant completely give up opera). Originally Posted by AW_3_3 Oh I'm sorry quasi I'm still here. It still sounds to me like a re-installation of windows might be in order. It could also be an overheating problem, I cannot remember if we eliminated that or not. @_@ Any idea if a browser can call an impossible display function?

07-04-2009	#44
DCiAdmin Tech Team Leader Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Heart of the US Midwest Posts: 10,265 PC Experience: Perpetual Student	Re: Pc random restart Quasi. I'm so sorry! I didn't realize that your thread had been idle for so long! Do you still require assistance with your issue? If so, please post back! Thanks! I look forward to seeing around the forum.

07-05-2009	#45
quasi Bronze Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29 PC Experience: Very Experienced	Re: Pc random restart Assistance is still very much required and will be highly appreciated. I have managed to reduce my restarts by not having many tabs open in my browser. I believe that either my tcp/ip stack is corrupted or something and it is causing some problem with lots of browsing, or maybe browsers make some kind of impossible display functions call. My restarts happen with both opera and firefox. I dont use internet explorer. No restarts happen if no browser is open.

07-05-2009	#46
DCiAdmin Tech Team Leader Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Heart of the US Midwest Posts: 10,265 PC Experience: Perpetual Student	Re: Pc random restart Quasi, One page back you mentioned browsing with 50 - 100 tabs open. WOW! That's got to be consuming a bunch of RAM! I was just reading the other day how IE really started to lag with 7+ tabs open. That's the only browser I'm using, so couldn't speak for the 2 that you use. But 50 - 100 tabs has got to be a lot for any browser. Have you ever noticed what your memory consumption is when you've got that much open? Task Manager could provide that information to you. If you consume ALL of the RAM available to Windows, it will reboot. I suspect that is the likely reason behind your issue. Could you edit your User Profile and add your system specs? That would then place an icon next to your UserName with the info so I don't need to search.

07-05-2009	#47
quasi Bronze Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29 PC Experience: Very Experienced	Re: Pc random restart Originally Posted by DCiAdmin Quasi, One page back you mentioned browsing with 50 - 100 tabs open. WOW! That's got to be consuming a bunch of RAM! I was just reading the other day how IE really started to lag with 7+ tabs open. That's the only browser I'm using, so couldn't speak for the 2 that you use. But 50 - 100 tabs has got to be a lot for any browser. Have you ever noticed what your memory consumption is when you've got that much open? Task Manager could provide that information to you. If you consume ALL of the RAM available to Windows, it will reboot. I suspect that is the likely reason behind your issue. Could you edit your User Profile and add your system specs? That would then place an icon next to your UserName with the info so I don't need to search. Ya, total system RAM usage goes to like 1GB or slightly above. the browser individually consume around 300-400Mb. I have 4gb ram, so I dont think that's the issue. Updated specs on profile

07-05-2009	#48
DCiAdmin Tech Team Leader Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Heart of the US Midwest Posts: 10,265 PC Experience: Perpetual Student	Re: Pc random restart Quasi, Are there any errors before the reboot? Perhaps something showing in the Event Viewer just prior to the reboot? Either Application or System logs?

07-06-2009	#49
quasi Bronze Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29 PC Experience: Very Experienced	Re: Pc random restart The following gets logged in event viewer on restart. Event Type: Error Event Source: ati2mtag Event Category: DAL Event ID: 43038 Description: EDID contain an error in the RangeLimit field Data: 0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 5a 00 ......Z. 0008: 2a 00 00 00 1e a8 00 c0 *....¨.À 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ There is nothing in the event log if it freezes on bootup.

07-06-2009	#50
DCiAdmin Tech Team Leader Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Heart of the US Midwest Posts: 10,265 PC Experience: Perpetual Student	Re: Pc random restart Do you have Catalyst installed? Perhaps you could unistall the ATI Catalyst and run with just the driver? I'm finding the same error reported all over the place with no resolutions in sight..... The Catalyst removal was suggested in a couple of the threads I found, but there was no response from the original poster, so I have no idea of the success of this recommendation.

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