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Old 10-14-2008   #1
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Hello guys and gals, and thank you in advance for any help you can provide.

Time line of issues and how I got to where I am. I might be giving too much useless information, but maybe it will help someone recognize the problem I might have.

Laptop worked fine with 512 memory.

I added 1 more gig of memory, and computer ran fine.

Two days after adding memory took computer to the park, used it with battery, shut it down, and when I got home it wouldn't start. Battery went 100% dead (figured just coincidence)

Started using computer with the AC cord, and ever so often it would totally freeze. I would be moving the mouse around and it would lock up on its track and the whole system would stop responding. I would have to do a forced shut down. This happened totally at random. Sometimes 5 minutes after bootup, sometimes 3 or 4 days after bootup.

About two months after that, the computer started having problems to boot up. I would have to turn it off and on a couple of times before it would start, until one day it just wouldn't start at all. As an experiment I took the dead battery out, and left it out. It started booting fine since then, and it stooped freezing at random.

About a month after I started using the computer without the dead battery inside, it started freezing up with firefox and IE when ever I use a Flash based video chat room. Only the brwoser (FireFox or IE) stops responding, but the rest of the computer keeps responding. If I try to end the firefox process it doesn't kill the application, only way to kill application was by rebooting.

I backed up all my files, created a list of the programs I wanted to re install later on, a decided to do a full restore to factory settings.

About the restore (what I need help with).

The computer would boot up fine, and work fine as long as I didn't use visit sites with Flash in them.

I attempted to do the Thinkvantage recovery method (a fresh factory install from a partition), but it never found partition. When ever I pressed F11 at start up to access service partition it would take me to Bios instead. Lenovo states I more than likely deleted the partion.

Thinkvantage also lets you roll back to a previous state. I was able to select a previous restore point, I start the recovery process, but it just reboots to the exact same conditions. I tried all the restore points and none worked.

I then tried to use the windows XP restore points. Same problem, I can select a restore point, but when it attempts to restore it gives me some kind of error message.

I then found a link with all the drivers for Lenovo, so figured I would use an XP copy that I have, install that and then manually install the correct drives. Fresh install no glutware. I modified Bios.. SATA to compatability, and to boot from CD. When I boot with the XP CD it just goes into a black screen with the cursor on top, and I can't type anything. Left it like that up to 30 minutes and nothing happens.

Figured maybe the XP CD was bad. Tried it on 3 different machines, and when I boot of off the CD it goes right into the blue windows xp install screen.

I then purchased one of those bootdisks from bootdisk.com I was able to boot to DOS, delete all the partitions on C: drive, do an FDISK, and then Format C:. Figured I was ready. I booted from XP CD and got the same problem, black screen.

I then made my c disk bootable with a utility on the Bootdisk i purchased. I can boot to C: without a CD or Floppy.

I found some instructions, that stated once I am in DOS, i can go to the CD rom drive, go to the i386 folder, and then run winnt.exe to start the installation. When I do this I get an error about "insufficient memory"

I then copied the i386 folder from the CD to the HD, and ran winnt.exe again, and got the same insufficient memory error

I am pretty sure that usually, if one just "formats c:" and then boots from the XP CD the CD takes care of the install, but since that wasn't working, I deleted the partition again, and ran FDisk again. This time I wanted to perform a "format c: /s", but when I try that I get the "insufficient memory to load system files. Format terminated"

I am totally lost at this point, I have no idea what else I can try/do. I don't have extra memory laying around to try, I don't have another HD to play with, etc.

In conclusion, as of now I have a computer that can boot with a bootcd onto DOS while loading the CD rom drive. I can access the C: drive, create/delete partitions, and fromat the drive. I just can't seem to do a "format c: /s", or install XP.

Can anyone guide me onto the right direction as to how I can load XP again onto this machine?

Thanks

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so is that a boot CD you bought, or a boot floppy? In other words, do other bood CD's work fine, just not XP?????

If so, I'd build a UBCD4Win disc, or an Ubuntu disc, and repartition and reformat your hard drive. Seems like something on the harddrive is causing the install to hang up....
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Default Re: Help with Fresh Install of XP

Thanks for the quick reply Y2k

Yes, it is a boot CD (no floppy drive). I am able to boot into DOS with two different CDs. At one point I also made a CD that runs at boot to try and fix/find my restore hidden partition.

So yes, I am pretty sure both the CD rom and the XP CD are working fine.

I have no experience with "UBCD4Win disc, or an Ubuntu disc" but I will go read up, and see if that might work.

My cousin also suggested I do an "fdisk /mbr" as he also thinks there is something on the HD that is preventing it from running a windows install.
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those are both bootable operating systems. UBCD4Win is a bootable XP, while Ubuntu is a very popular form of Linux. Both have hard disk utilities that let you manipulate drives with familiar, windows GUI style interfaces.

The only other thing I can think of is possibly the SATA issue. On my Toshiba, I had to install SATA drivers into my XP disc (slipstreamed them), as there was no compatibility mode that worked. Of course, I could still run the XP disc, it just didn't see the hard drives. I wonder if that might be causing the install to choke???

Lenovo is actually one company that makes a nice restore disc, so it might be worth purchasing a replacement at some point if you can't get things working. My Toshiba's OEM install was full of bloatware, but I've had 3 Thinkpads, and I really like the features IBM/Lenovo installs.
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hey u must format ur entire disc using disk manager.it will fix the MBR and all other disk problems.DM is an console program so u can run from an (* boot disk or any bootable floppy..okall the best .bye
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