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Windows Server - [Resolved] Looser needs help...basic networking? posted in the Operating Systems forums; ahhh, brian, some of your TCP/IP settings can be bypassed locally by simply adding static address's. Have a look in Control Panel, Network Connections, Local Area Connection x , Properties, ...

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ahhh, brian, some of your TCP/IP settings can be bypassed locally by simply adding static address's. Have a look in Control Panel, Network Connections, Local Area Connection x, Properties, TCP/IP, Properties and make there are no static address's here.

Or go to Start, Run, and type cmd. Type ipconfig /all. Right click on the title bar and go to Edit, Copy followed by Edit, Paste. Paste the details back here if you like. Do this for a working PC and for a PC that doesn't work on the internet so you will need to save to a file and open it on a working PC.

Can you DHCP server access the internet? The internet doesn't route through your DHCP Server (this is known as a proxy server), but all that happens is each PC that start's up is assigned an address, which includes your gateway address. If your DCHP isn't configured properly to do this, then this may explain why you can't access the internet. Not sure if that makes sense?


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Everything is static as of now...

Our servers current network card address is:
192.168.5.1
255.255.255.0
192.168.5.50

Our Hub is attached to it. The hub has all computers and the modems attached to it. Currently all computers are using the internet and working. I assign each computer like this:

192.168.5.100
255.255.255.0
192.168.5.50

The next computer will have same subnet and gateway, but different base IP, starting from 100 and going up.

Say our new dsl line is assigning

74.49.101.50
255.255.255.252
74.49.101.49

to our server card when DHCP is enabled and our modem is attached directly to it. So, I go ahead and disable the DHCP and assign our card that address...sinse we only have 1 Static IP. From that point I go to a workstation on the LAN and assign it's card:

74.49.101.100 <-this number being the only thing different....
255.255.255.252
74.49.101.49

Internet doesn't work...but, if I make the LAN computer the

74.49.101.50
255.255.255.252
74.49.101.49

address, it can connect to the internet... but obviously it conflict with our server having the same address....


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Hey madmonkey... I'm not sure. I don't think DHCP is even enabled on our server... I can enable DHCP using the Administration tools on our serve... when I simply tell the server's network card to obtain addresses automatically when the dsl is attached it does retrieve an address...

I have not enabled DHCP control on our server. Right now we run through a workgroup, using the IP settings as I explained..the address for the network card on our server is my gateway. everything (workstations and modem) connected to a standard hub which is connected to that network card.

You think I should enable DHCP control on our server and change our workstations to obtain addresses?


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errr, I may just be confused, but it sounds like the way you have it setup now, using the IP scheme of 192.168.5.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.5.50 is the way it should be setup, and you say all the PC's can connect to the internet this way?

The way you seem to want it configured is puzzling. 255.255.255.252 is a different class of network, and should be used on a much bigger network, and sounds like an IP address that would be assigned by your ISP. I don't see why you would need to use this IP scheme and why you would be plugging your DSL router directly to your DHCP server. The only purpose of a DHCP server, is so that you don't have to worry about assigning IP address's to your PC's. If you have a new PC, simply plonk it on the network, and you won't have to keep a record of what IP address is assigned to a particular PC.

Sorry Brian, I must have misread, but I'm confused!


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Originally Posted by madmonkey
errr, I may just be confused, but it sounds like the way you have it setup now, using the IP scheme of 192.168.5.x, subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.5.50 is the way it should be setup, and you say all the PC's can connect to the internet this way?

The way you seem to want it configured is puzzling. 255.255.255.252 is a different class of network, and should be used on a much bigger network, and sounds like an IP address that would be assigned by your ISP. I don't see why you would need to use this IP scheme and why you would be plugging your DSL router directly to your DHCP server. The only purpose of a DHCP server, is so that you don't have to worry about assigning IP address's to your PC's. If you have a new PC, simply plonk it on the network, and you won't have to keep a record of what IP address is assigned to a particular PC.

Sorry Brian, I must have misread, but I'm confused!
We obtained a static IP from our internet provider for our DSL. We did this in the effort to access our server from our homes...

When I attach the new dsl router to our server, it only works if I use the IP address they gave me for our LAN. Any other address doesn't seem to work. The ISP says will have to purchase a wider range of IP addresses.... but that doesn't make sence to me. I would think the WAN Side would be the only part that would matter and the LAN side could be set to anything.... but they won't give me access...


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By assigning your PC's static IP address's on the 255.255.255.252 subnet, you could potentially cause problems for other customers that are part of the same ISP, since you have only been assigned one IP address, and the others are likely to be assigned the address's you are trying to use.

With your current setup, you can connect to one PC from home. What you need to do for this is setup "Port Forwarding" on your router, since you cannot actually see the PC's on your network, but you will be able to see your router.

PC Anywhere for example uses TCP/UDP ports 5631 and 5632. You will need to open these ports on your router, and point them to an IP address of your choice - a PC that has PC Anywhere host running.

What DSL router do you have there?


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My first problem is getting my internet to at least be shared accross my network using that new DSL modem...? Any suggestions? We have a efficient networks... 5390 (speedstream) I believe, but our ISP won't give us access...


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