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not a pain in the least, domonic. Sounds like the only pain here is your pc not acting as it should.....Betcha garhar's onto something there.

so you guys would say a new souncard? i have no where to put it tho there are 2 expansion slots and they are both full, the pc is only bout a year old my friend gave it to me before he moved, is nothing else you can think of, on bios at the start up screen i disabled on board sound then started my pc up then i restarted it on turned it back on and it came up with new pci device found but i could find the drivers or the sound ones i downloaded eariler didnt work do u think it has somthing to do with my sound card?

ok...so disablign the sound card...and reenabling it again detects new hardware?
Interesting...

Can you goto Start -> Run -> devmgmt.msc and tell me what is under Sound, video and game controllers

Hey dom,

When you downloaded the drivers that Uppy provided, you extracted them to a folder?

When you see "Found New Hardware" wizard appear, select the option Install from specific location - Next, Tick Include this location in the search, and click on Browse. Then select the location of where you extracted the files to, and follow the wizard to the end.

If you really do have problems onboard, and no space for any more cards, you can get USB sound devices such as USB Virtual 5.1 Channel Sound Adapter with MIC Input USBG-SV5 LOW PRICE $19.98

Did your friend actually have the sound working?

But try them steps madmonkey gave you.

hey guys yes my friend had the sound workin wen he got it, i went on device manager and here is everything what is there


audio codecs
audio codecs
flytv platinum 33 gold
legacy audio drivers
legacy video capture devices
media control devices
philips wdm tvtuner (tda8275)
video codecs

and i did also extract everything to a folder and tried to install again but it says cannot find correct software to install the hardware. do you guys think if i install my mother board drivers again that would help? if it would do you no where i could get them?!?! cheers guys

Dom-- I am on the page at Driverguide that lists every driver they have for this setup. I need to know what OS you are running --XP/ME/98 ?

I can download/send em all to you to try... there are several drivers that could affect the sound-on-board you have.