Pending: MGS 2 On Vista

AdamVGR · 07-07-2009

I'm sure this is quite an old problem, but I'm having no success in getting the PC version of Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance to work on Vista. I've tried the so-called audio fixes like Alchemy and 3D Sound Back, but I'm still left with a black screen when I launch the game.

I have a GTX 280 with the latest driver and a Realtek HD Audio Card with the latest driver. I have updated the game through the patch, but alas no luck. I'm trying to get it to work so I may record it via Fraps. Any suggestions other than going back to XP? I mean I would do a dual-boot if I had any idea how to. I did try the Virtual PC idea, but my gfx card seemed to vanish lol.

Any help on this would be appreciated, thanks.

smokeycheech · 07-07-2009

Hello AdamVGR, Welcome back to the forum!

Have you tried running the game in XP compatibility mode?

I am unsure if this works with a game exe and I don't currently have any games installed on my PC to look myself

give it a try and if no joy, I will mark you thread as open and hopefully someone else will be able to give input

Regards,

Smokeycheech

AdamVGR · 07-07-2009

Yeah I've tried that, sadly. Thanks, I hope someone has a solution...

DCiAdmin · 07-10-2009

Hello AdamVGR!

My apologies for the delay in responding to your question. A quick bit of research has lead me to the following:

anyways, i have a realtek ac'97 audio card and a radeon xpress 200m gfx card, i previously had windows xp, on which the game ran just fine, but after purchasing vista...i got the black screen, along with the cpu usage % going up into the 80-90's, did some reading about it...turns out in some cases its the sound drivers being ran through directsound layer, vista doesnt really support it..so what i tried (which i dont suggest you try unless you know what you're doing) was uninstalling my sound drivers,(disabling the sound card should work just as well) and then running the game...and surprisingly it ran..without sound but still it ran..but i continually got sound error messages throughout, shut off the game hoping it would still run with the sound drivers installed,and hasnt worked since,..but for your own researching, the sound drivers are ran through "IDirectSound8" which is a directx driver,my theory is that maybe realtek ac's dont support that layer yet. so maybe after realtek comes out with the next set of vista drivers it may be fixed

Perhaps that will help you as well?

AdamVGR · 07-13-2009

Unfortunately I've tried all the sound solutions and alas it hasn't worked for me yet

I'm thinking the only viable option is for me to dual-boot my PC to play the game on XP, but I wouldn't know where to begin.

DCiAdmin · 07-14-2009

If that's the direction that you wish to go Adam, I can locate someone to assist you. That's not my field of experitise

AdamVGR · 07-21-2009

Well, I dont want to go down that road unless there is another way. But since there doesn't appear to be one, I guess this is the only option.

07-07-2009	#1
AdamVGR Bronze Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 95 PC Experience: Some Experience	MGS 2 On Vista I'm sure this is quite an old problem, but I'm having no success in getting the PC version of Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance to work on Vista. I've tried the so-called audio fixes like Alchemy and 3D Sound Back, but I'm still left with a black screen when I launch the game. I have a GTX 280 with the latest driver and a Realtek HD Audio Card with the latest driver. I have updated the game through the patch, but alas no luck. I'm trying to get it to work so I may record it via Fraps. Any suggestions other than going back to XP? I mean I would do a dual-boot if I had any idea how to. I did try the Virtual PC idea, but my gfx card seemed to vanish lol. Any help on this would be appreciated, thanks. __________________ VG-Reloaded.com - The home of gaming on the web

07-07-2009	#2
smokeycheech Mod Team Leader Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Skynet HQ (kinda near PCHF bunker) Posts: 2,189 PC Experience: Learning more every day!	Re: MGS 2 On Vista Hello AdamVGR, Welcome back to the forum! Have you tried running the game in XP compatibility mode? I am unsure if this works with a game exe and I don't currently have any games installed on my PC to look myself give it a try and if no joy, I will mark you thread as open and hopefully someone else will be able to give input Regards, Smokeycheech __________________ Prework~Speedfan~CCleaner~Rules~CCCP~BSOD *If an elephant never forgets, how come they never win mastermind?*

07-07-2009	#3
AdamVGR Bronze Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 95 PC Experience: Some Experience	Re: MGS 2 On Vista Yeah I've tried that, sadly. Thanks, I hope someone has a solution... __________________ VG-Reloaded.com - The home of gaming on the web

07-10-2009	#4
DCiAdmin Tech Team Leader Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Heart of the US Midwest Posts: 6,179 PC Experience: Perpetual Student	Re: MGS 2 On Vista Hello AdamVGR! My apologies for the delay in responding to your question. A quick bit of research has lead me to the following: anyways, i have a realtek ac'97 audio card and a radeon xpress 200m gfx card, i previously had windows xp, on which the game ran just fine, but after purchasing vista...i got the black screen, along with the cpu usage % going up into the 80-90's, did some reading about it...turns out in some cases its the sound drivers being ran through directsound layer, vista doesnt really support it..so what i tried (which i dont suggest you try unless you know what you're doing) was uninstalling my sound drivers,(disabling the sound card should work just as well) and then running the game...and surprisingly it ran..without sound but still it ran..but i continually got sound error messages throughout, shut off the game hoping it would still run with the sound drivers installed,and hasnt worked since,..but for your own researching, the sound drivers are ran through "IDirectSound8" which is a directx driver,my theory is that maybe realtek ac's dont support that layer yet. so maybe after realtek comes out with the next set of vista drivers it may be fixed Perhaps that will help you as well? __________________ DCiAdmin *PCHF Rules* / *PreWork* / *AfterWork* / *PCHF Downloads* / *System File Checker* Thank you for entrusting your system to PCHF!

07-13-2009	#5
AdamVGR Bronze Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 95 PC Experience: Some Experience	Re: MGS 2 On Vista Unfortunately I've tried all the sound solutions and alas it hasn't worked for me yet I'm thinking the only viable option is for me to dual-boot my PC to play the game on XP, but I wouldn't know where to begin. __________________ VG-Reloaded.com - The home of gaming on the web

07-14-2009	#6
DCiAdmin Tech Team Leader Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Heart of the US Midwest Posts: 6,179 PC Experience: Perpetual Student	Re: MGS 2 On Vista If that's the direction that you wish to go Adam, I can locate someone to assist you. That's not my field of experitise __________________ DCiAdmin *PCHF Rules* / *PreWork* / *AfterWork* / *PCHF Downloads* / *System File Checker* Thank you for entrusting your system to PCHF!

07-21-2009	#7
AdamVGR Bronze Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 95 PC Experience: Some Experience	Re: MGS 2 On Vista Well, I dont want to go down that road unless there is another way. But since there doesn't appear to be one, I guess this is the only option. __________________ VG-Reloaded.com - The home of gaming on the web

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