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I was wondering. what kind of card is this? (i.e 64mb > 128mb > 256mb etc) and if it is indeed higher than 64mb then why doe it hiave problmes running games like Quake 4? When i try to play Q4 with it a click on play the screen goes black (like it would when i game is about the start and the company name.title is about to be shown on the screen) for a split second then returns to the desktop. However I heard reviwes of this chipset running Doom 3 well and Im sure q4 isnt THAT MUCH graphically superior to Domm 3. Also i notice in display the highers i can set my colors too is 32bit what ever happened to 256 colors or true color? I though any computer made in the last 3 years (probably longer) already comes stock with a card that can give you 256 or true color?


Also here are the q4 system reqs and my pc specs

• Intel?Pentium? 4 2 Ghz or AMD? XP 2000+ processor or higher
• 512 MB RAM
• English Version of Microsoft?Windows? 2000/XP
• 100% DirectX? 9.0c compatable 64MB 3D Hardware Accelerator video card required
• 8X Speed CD-ROM Drive and latest drivers
• 2.8GB of uncompressed free hard disk space (plus 400MB for for Windows? swap file)
• 100% DirectX? 9.0c compatable 16-bit sound card and latest drivers
• 100% Microsoft?Windows? 2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard, and latest drivers.
• 100% DirectX? 9.0c inlcuded

• Internet (TCP/IP) and LAN (TCP/IP) play supported. Internet play requires broadband connection and latest drivers. LAN play requires network interface card and latest drivers.

• ATI? Radeon? 9700
• ATI? Radeon? 9800
• ATI? Radeon? X300
• ATI? Radeon? X550
• ATI? Radeon? X600
• ATI? Radeon? X700
• ATI? Radeon? X800
• ATI? Radeon? X850
• all Nvidia? GeForce 3/TI Series
• all Nvidia? GeForce 4/TI Series
• all Nvidia? GeForce FX Series
• all Nvidia? GeForce 6 Series
• all Nvidia? GeForce 7 Series

PC Specs:

Processor Brand AMD Processor Class Athlon 64 3700+
Processor Speed 2.2 GHz Installed Memory 1 GB Bus Speed 1000 MHz Cache Size 1 MB Memory Technology DDR SDRAM Maximum Memory 4 GB Number of Installed Processors 1 Maximum Number of Processors 1 System Chipset ATI RADEON XPRESS 200
CD - ROM Speed 40x

Looks like the lowest of that series that is supported is the X300 im afraid.
But dont worry about the 32 bit colors , that is better then 256 or true color.

ok as you probably already know im gettin an X800XL is that better than the following:


ATI® Radeon® 9700
ATI® Radeon® 9800
ATI® Radeon® X850

Im sure the x850 would be better than x800 but maybe the xl makes a differnce?

I would say the XL is best of those , and good enough for sure to play Quake 4.

so spec wise x800xl is better than:

ATI? Radeon? 9700
ATI? Radeon? 9800
ATI? Radeon? X850


I always though the ones with the highest number in this case the 9800 is better than all the ATI cards i listed? lol

Well , you are partially correct in that. Normally the higher the number the better , but the X*** series is a newer generation of cards then the the 9*** series.

ok so why is X800XL better than X850? oh and by the way i just got that card in the mail.. heh took me 10 mions to figur eout how to take it out of teh pci - x slot as i just couldnt pull it out like any normal card.. i had to push up or down on something before it would slide out... But speaking of which theres a white slow near the cards fan that im guessing where something from the power supply would go but i dont have anything like that comming from my powe rsupply (i go have a few things liek that in the tower however like the builts in tpower usb posta have a cord going from teh USB that plug into teh motherboard that match the fitting for the spot on teh fan... Its real small and has 4 prongs.. any idea where i can get something like that... there should be a pic of teh card with the lin kyougave me that shows exactly what it looks like.


Im guessing its a 12V graphics card power connector. That i need also in teh last thread you said i had several PCI - X slots but from what i noticed i only have 1 as there was only one of teh 4 slots that the card would fit into.