and ANOTHER thing, All PC vendors should be required to provide full version discs with any new PC. Recovery discs should be outlawed.

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AHA!! Recovery discs... dont get me started on those things... thats the reason im on PCHF as it is.... My PC came with a recovery disc... i used it once... it was useless, broke everything, i had to take it to the pc shop in town for data recovery, format and reinstall... i later found out it was a known problem with advent discs and if you paid them summat like £50 they would send out a disc that actually worked!! GRRR

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That's what I mean...they sell you a PC-- and they know very well that PC's have errors eventually. I don't know anyone who owns a computer that has NOT had to reinstall Windows... at least once.
Then they give you a restore disc-- that cannot do non-destructive recovery. So you have to wipe and start over completely-- lose all those valuable pics/music files... etc.
Should you backup your stuff?? Of course you should... do most people do it that way?? Uh-uh.
At least you should be able to make a last-ditch attempt to save your data.
That really grinds my gears...

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Ahhh... Backups.. a lot of people, me included, find out the hard way about how important it is to keep regular backups of everything... now i have cd`s, dvd`s, flash drives and an external hard drive... just in case

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OK, inspired by JB`s build pics heres a list of my parts

Power Supply Unit OCZ StealthXStream 600W Power Supply Unit - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm LED Fan - Ebuyer

Case (Yeah i know its cheap but i think it looks cool lol) Casecom Black Midi Tower Case - Cheap at Ebuyer!

Motherboard Gigabyte GA M57SLI-S4 SKT AM2 Nvidia MCP55P PCI-E 8Channel audio ATX - Ebuyer

Ram OCZ 2GB DDR2 Memory - Cheap at Ebuyer!

CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Socket AM2 (2.8GHz) L2 Cache 2MB (2x1MB) OEM Processor - Ebuyer

Heatsink/Fan Scythe Samurai Z Rev.B Socket 478, 754, 940, 775, 939 & AM2 CPU Cooler - Ebuyer

HDD Maxtor STM3250310AS 250GB SATAII 8MB Cache - OEM - Ebuyer

Optical Drive Optiarc AD-7200S 20X DVD±RW/DL/RAM Internal SATA Bare Black Drive - OEM - Ebuyer

GFX Card Inno3D 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 Wind Edition Cooler Dual DVI TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card - Ebuyer

All i need now is some cold hard cash lol

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could you not buy the 5000 black edition cpu with unlocked multiplier AMD Black Edition Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Socket AM2 2.6GHz Energy Efficient L2 1MB (2x512KB) Retail Boxed Processor - Note does not include heatsink or fan - Ebuyer

Also I would push you towards Western digital hdd over Maxtor any day of the week

I could but im not planning to overclock, i was looking at the 5000 black for a while and decided against it in the end

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Ok may I point out to you the black edition is 65 nm energy efficient and the 5600 is 90nm . That alone should change your mind

Yeah, just read the reviews again on the 5000, seems to be easy to get 3.2ghz out of it too, maybe ill be changing my mind again lol

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Real nice D_.

Real nice.