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Computer DIY - Please Read & See If Your'e Smarter Than Me <:ø) ... I Hope So posted in the Hardware forums; Okay; heres the deal. The other day I took off the case of the computer to clean the filter that is on the front of the case that blocks lint ...

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Okay; heres the deal. The other day I took off the case of the computer to clean the filter that is on the
front of the case that blocks lint from the two fans that cool the drive bays. I cleaned it & also decided to
clean the heatsink so I took it completly off & the chip stuck to the heatsink, pulling it out stuck to the Heatsink without
moving the little silver bar that you are supposed to turn up before taking the processor out.
This should help:
{{Year Originally built: 2001}}
Processor: P4 1.7 Ghz 256/400/1.75v - 478 pin
MB: Shuttle Spacewalker - 266FSB
Memory: 512MB - 1 Stick Corsair PC-2100 - 184 pin (I believe it is SDRAM-DDR)
NVIDIA 6600 OC (256MB) - Replaced from original Ti500 NVIDIA ((AGP-8X))
80GB Western Digital HD 5200RPM IDE
Hammer Storage 8.5GB DVD Writable Drive
Sony 3½ Floppy
Cooler Master Case with many fans including 2 for drive bays, one top case fan, one extra for back of case
450 Watt PS (most expensive one with two exaust fans)
10$ Ethernet Card (Airlink)
Audigy Sound Blaster Platinum 1 External (I stepped on the install CD and cannot properly load the drivers
{{Game FABLE won't load because computer is confused about whether SC is Audigy SB or not}} ; so if anyone
can get me a copy of this Driver CD it would be greatly appreciated. (Micro$soft made this game and refuses to
load it because it makes sure the SC is what IT wants)
Okay; so I take the heatsink loose and find out the CPU had stuck to the heatsink & when it came off it pulled
the processor out with it improperly.
I pulled all pci/HD/etc etc. until all parts except cpu was intact. - No beeps - No post - no video. Decided it
was either processor or maybe memory (tho unlikely memory since processor alone should of beeped. Checked PC
Speaker & it is fine.) Went and bought a P4 512/800 used (but tested first) & same thing. I can only imagine it
must be the MB damaged during ripping out processor. No pins bent on either processor.
I don't wish to spend money on the newer technology since I realize a properly built older box will sometimes
outperform a newer. (My P4 1.7Ghz could play Might and Magic Dark Messiah which min req. was a 2.6Ghz P4 rec. 3.2Ghz
with only minimal lags during full video interludes)
So, I trace it to MB. I am seeking a MB that can accomodate all my stuff. I looked all over & even tried to
find a dual processor board for my two P4's (doesn't exist unless you got xeons), & read many things; was
interested in an FIC board that was perfect with 5 pci slots & all the frills; but only 400FSB.
{ INTEL 865P Pentium-IV Socket-478 ATX Motherboard -- FIC P4-865P Ultra Motherboard
{{eBay
Motherboard_W0QQitemZ290166808897QQihZ019QQcategor yZ44943QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi
ewItem}}}
Everything about it is perfect except: only 400FSB when I bought an 512/800FSB Chip. Both processor and MB
were very expensive when they were 'in style'. ... but really really cheap now.
A: I want a board that is expandable like that one; B: I heard Gigabyte & ASUS were far supperior to any
other board; and C: I would like one that will take PC-2100 for my old 512MB & another 512-2GB PC-2700 +.
I tried to find a board but I don't know if DDR400 has anything to do with PC-****. If I must I will just buy
the newer memory since you can get 2GB for 99$.
Anyhow, That is my situation; I hope some super tech can answer this for me as I too am very intel. on
computers (since the Timex Sinclair 1000 - 2KB memory upgradable to 16KB; used a cassette player to record
programs) ... but I have been so happy with my old system only upgrading the DVD writer & video card ... that
I have not gotten too much into the newest stuff tho I do understand alot of it now.
So... I guess I am just wondering what MB I should get. I like ATX boards with two IDE slots; at least 4 PCI;
expandable that can accomodate what I have. GigaBytes site has many many many boards but difficult since you can't enter in the super tech details.
Any help for anything I have said would be great. I have done my best to be detailed as possible.
Thanks in advance.


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Default Re: Please Read & See If Your'e Smarter Than Me <:ø) ... I Hope So

I forgot one thing: I also have WD firewire-USB HD ... so if i could get what I wanted on the MB plus a firewire connector that would be great...if not; I plug in through the firewire port on old SB audigy.


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Hmm Can you take ALOT of pictures of the motherboard slot?It would be really useful to see.


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No; lost me digital camera... but it has 266FSB (irrelevant since it is dead) I have a P4 that has a rating on the chip of 512L2/800FSB. The MB is DeAd...that is why I am asking about it...I know that is the problem. But anyhow; thanks for taking the time to reply to my ? I do appreciate it.
(BTW...this site needs to add the ability to copy text...can paste but no copy... I typed for hours & had to stop the other night only to find I could not save to notepad due to restriction on copy text)


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HI welcome to PCHF so the problem is the processor came out with the heat sink still attached and now the PC will not boot? Do you get any display at all or beeps? I just want to be clear before we trouble shoot it


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Originally Posted by madmatt2006
HI welcome to PCHF so the problem is the processor came out with the heat sink still attached and now the PC will not boot? Do you get any display at all or beeps? I just want to be clear before we trouble shoot it
{I pulled all pci/HD/etc etc. until all parts except cpu was intact. - No beeps - No post - no video. Decided it was either processor or maybe memory (tho unlikely memory since processor alone should of beeped. Checked PC Speaker & it is fine.)}


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I'm really most interested in a good MotherBoard that will accomodate my desires as outlined in the original post. I was reccommended to Gigabyte or ASUS, but the FIC board {See it here}
INTEL 865P Pentium-IV Socket-478 ATX Motherboard - (eBay item 290166808897 end time Oct-11-07 23:33:17 PDT)
seems to be perfect save that I want a board that supports the P4 512L2/800Mhz FSB chip. That board only goes up to 533FSB.
Any suggestions?



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