(>.<)..........lol i dont know about the legality of that

shaggyy,

Apologies for not getting back to you. I had to run off. Getting back on topic here, once your friend runs the programs why not have him come here and post his logs? We can assess them and make sure he is malware free.

well..its a brand new pc, has only been to the sites for the antivirus/malware. I wouldnt think he has any problems yet..but hell, what do i know? lol I got all the software i think i need for him on disk now (at least i hope its properly on disk) lol ill run it by his house today and hook him up. thanks for the help, ive been wanting to learn how to do that for a while now. I love learning new things

Great. I'm glad I could be of help.